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Paul Torek's avatar

I stayed silent on the long series on where morality comes from, but this nugget allows me to pinpoint part of my disagreement:

"the claim that everyone has a normative obligation to give moral weight to suffering presupposes that there are objective moral truths: truths that bind people independently of whether they accept them. If this obligation is meant to bind even those who reject it, there must be some source of authority independent of actual individual or social endorsement."

No, it needn't presuppose objective moral truths. (Different philosophers use "objective" differently in this context, so this part's tricky.) And no, the authority of morality needn't be independent of social endorsement.

It's an objective truth that whales aren't fishes. Does this truth "bind" people independently of whether they accept it? Yes, if the threat of uttering falsehoods is considered "binding". But not everyone will be motivated by this truth. Maybe a group of fishermen find it convenient to label all these creatures "fish", at least among themselves. The term "binding" could stand more elaboration.

Baseball facts are social constructs. They're not mind-independent, so they're not "objective" in the strongest sense of that word. Yet they're still facts, and the reason that they are considered binding, even to the runner who is out and tried to argue that she is safe, is social endorsement.

You and I are both meta-ethical constructivists (I think it's fair to say), but of different varieties. But even on your variety, I don't see how you can ground the quoted statements.

Josh Gellers, PhD's avatar

Thanks for sharing your perspective on this topic! If you're interested, I wrote a whole book on this topic in 2020, Rights for Robots: Artificial Intelligence, Animal and Environmental Law (Routledge). It's available free via open access here: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/oa-mono/10.4324/9780429288159/rights-robots-joshua-gellers

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