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Per Kraulis's avatar

Fun fact: the switch to driving on the right in Sweden 1967 was preceded by a non-binding referendum in 1955 where more than 80% voted against. Parliament still pushed it through. Not sure what that says about contractarianism...

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You say, "This idea does not reflect how morality works in real life, and for a contractarian, it is logically inconsistent."

I don’t think it’s so clear that subjectivism isn’t how morality works out in real life, and I think this claim is probably based on not appreciating how well subjectivism can accommodate how people in fact behave.

You say, "If moral views were just things that can differ in each of our heads, how would they work? Why would Alice care when Bob tells her she is wrong, according to his own principles of morality?"

People can have subjective preferences about how other people act. Subjectivism simply holds that moral claims are true or false relative to the standards of individuals. It is entirely consistent with this, and not unexpected, that people care about those standard and want to see them enforced. When those standards come into conflict with someone with contrary standards, of course people are going to care. Why wouldn’t Alice care if Bob tells her she’s wrong? This indicates Bob is disposed to act in ways inconsistent with Alice’s subjective values!

You say: “Why should she grant this claim more significance than if Bob were pointing out that he prefers chocolate ice cream, contrary to her choice of vanilla flavour?”

There is a difference between whether a standard is made true by subjective preferences or stance-independent truths on the one hand (this is a matter of what makes claims true), and, on the other, the scope of a normative concern. Ice cream preferences are typically narrow in scope, applying only to oneself. But moral standards can and typically do concern how other people conduct themselves. So a preference for vanilla ice cream might be cashed out as “I would like to eat vanilla, but I don’t really care what others eat,” whereas a moral preference may be “I would like nobody to torture anyone, so I do carewhat others do.” Both standards can be subjective, and yet the latter concerns other people’s conduct. If the vanilla ice cream lover encounters a person who wants to eat chocolate ice cream, they won’t care because their taste preferences only concern their own conduct. In contrast, if an anti-torture person encounters a pro-torture person, they will care because that person may torture others or create situations in which torture is more likely to occur.

Binmore’s objection also isn’t very good:

“[M]oral subjectivism is absurd because it overlooks the fact that moral rules evolved to help human beings coordinate their behavior. But successful coordination depends on everybody operating the same moral rules. If everybody in a society made up their own standards, there wouldn’t be any point in having moral rules at all.”

Subjectivism typically begins with the claim that when people make moral claims they are reporting their subjective values. This is either true or false. Subjectivism couldn’t reasonably be said to “overlook” how or why moral rules evolved; a subjectivist could agree that this is true and then just affirm subjectivism anyway. Nothing about the position entails overlooking this claim. I don’t even know how or why someone would argue such a thing, and I question whether it even makes sense to accuse a position of overlooking things. Positions don’t overlook things; the people defending them do, and I don’t know of any good reason to think subjectivists overlook this fact (if it is a fact). Second, the point about there not being any point of people having standards is misguided. This sounds like an objection to subjectivism based on its consequences. Views aren’t wrong because you don’t like the consequences. If the reasoning is a bit better than this, and one reasons from the fact that we do have morality, so it must have a point, but if we were subjectivists it wouldn’t, so we’re probably not subjectivists, that’s fine, but then it’s an open question whether or not there would be no point in having morality. I don’t agree with Binmore that there wouldn’t be a point in having moral rules. Moral rules could be seen as compromises people come to whether or not moral truth is ultimately subjective. Such compromises are consistent with everyone being a subjectivist, since there are going to be optimum coordinative solutions for people even if they are subjectivists.

Think of it this way. Suppose everyone was a committed subjectivist, and they all had somewhat different moral values. Would they just…not have moral rules? I don’t see why we should imagine this would occur. It would likely be in their respective self-interests to reach compromises and negotiate on rules that optimize conflict reduction and other considerations that allow each person to best achieve their values given value conflicts with others. Or they’d go to war, as people often do, and hope to win. Given how people actually act, “everyone is a subjectivist” thus doesn’t strike me as that terrible of a position.

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