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Alastair James's avatar

What this doesn't seem to address is the difference between fairness as outcomes being identical regardless of inputs and fairness as outcomes being proportional to contribution. There, very simplistically, conservatives and socialists seem to have different intuitions. I presume there was some socio-economic optimum that balanced the capable going on strike with the less capable banding up and taking from the capable and that within a group with a balance that was inter-group competitive both intuitions were evolutionarily stable in individual psychologies.

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I don’t follow at all. Let me voice out my concerns (or misunderstandings?)

Fairness relates to our feelings about the costs and benefits of cooperation (or coordination). Using economics as an illustration, a fair wage is the best wage a person can get voluntarily from (theoretically) unlimited numbers of competing employers. The employment is the cooperative arrangement, with one supplying their effort and time, the other paying the salary. Similarly, a fair price for coffee is the best price I can get absent coercion.

I do not get what utilitarianism has to do with this. Nor do I get how anyone joining a team or relationship would be able to even remotely calculate long term utility across multiple players. This establishes a ridiculously hard (impossible?) to calculate standard of fairness. Nor is it (as you mention) binding. So this is a total fail in my book.

Egalitarianism is even worse. It sweeps the entire issue of contributions vs rewards under the rug. The incentives in an egalitarian system is for everyone to free ride, and contribute nothing. This totally destroys cooperation, leading to a situation where we are better going solo than cooperating in the first place.

I don’t want to go on too long, but I think fairness is better framed as the best voluntary arrangement of costs and benefits one can get among competing alternatives (as per the economics examples). A great example of fairness is revealed when we look back at voluntary agreements among actual pirates. But that will take us too far…

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