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Claire Hartnell's avatar

Really interesting as usual. But the algorithm can’t be as simple as ‘repeat what gives pleasure’. Wasn’t that the big takeaway from Damasio’s work? That we can lose half our brains & make decisions that are proximately optimal - but hopelessly non strategic for longer term decisions? The ability to defer gratification is an important feature of choosing optimal pathways. That may mean risking getting no primary reward (the marshmallow or whatever) in order to get two later. Or taking a pathway that promises pain for uncertain but tasty rewards. For me, depression is a psychological stranding where no pathways seem to be available. But if I recall, this helplessness is not ‘learned’ - it’s the standard operating system for organisms confronted with aversive situations? And it messes up the reward / learning system by over emphasising errors. I’m not sure how a machine would respond to aversiveness? Would it keep trying new pathways until it ran out of energy or would it also adopt a helplessness & throw in the towel after a sub optimal number of attempts? Also, as I’ve previously commented, I find the really fascinating bit is the poorly calibrated people. People with super optimism bias who perceive far more pathways than are available and keep searching for them. But I think these people are also far more likely to get stranded / depressed, because they’re poorly calibrated. Which might explain higher levels of depression among entrepreneurs, sports stars etc; Musk is the perfect example of the massively non-calibrated individual cycling through mood states as he’s forever exploring adaptive pathways. Anyway, as always, a thought provoking post.

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Rafael Teixeira's avatar

Thanks for the overview. I tend to think that these things are really multilayered in our brains.

For example: depression is on a layer above the dopamine actions on neurons and apply a modulation on the overall happiness processing. That is just my intuition from first-hand experience with depression.

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